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A pointed nail can often "open up" the roll pin making it harder to get out. Try to use something flat like a punch (or grind the nail flat). Patrick D. ----- Original Message ----- > Ive always used a large(similar diameter) nail and hammer with great > results. > > jason > > > > On 11 Feb 2004 at 19:38, Keith Park wrote: > > > > > I believe they are held on by a roll pin, that needs to be punched out > then > > > they come off. > > > > Nope, it's a spring clip that you can't get to with the knob in place. > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org >