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I am off list, so I am slow to respond. Sorry to see your problems Greg. You do have a problem. The red flacky material IS friction material off the clutch disc's or off the bands. The metallic is probably bushing/thrust washer material. As for the stones, I cannot say where they came from. They are definitely not part of the trans internals. The only good news it, that parts are still available for it. http://204.244.250.73/cgi-bin/catdata.sh?input=hidden&CVI=ATP~~~ATP~~~69VW~SQU3512856911N&SRT=&CV=&VERS=1285691 I also have 2 used trannies available. One is complete, and the other is unknown. I got it in with a bunch of other stuff I bought by the pickup load. Let me know, if there is anything I can help with. Russ Wolfe (On the road, in SoCal.) > Ok, some time back, trouble developed with my '69 > Squareback's automatic transmission. (See previous post below.) > > I spent some time with the car today. I dropped the ATF pan, > and found more than I expected to see. Pictures here: > > http://69squareback.nannynannybooboo.com/200412_AT/ (slow link.) > > Basically, I found... > > o very fine metallic dust suspended in the fluid; > o very thin metallic flakes, mostly < 1mm diameter; > o crumbly pieces of nonmetallic, reddish, flat strips, about > 1cm wide; and > o some small stones. (!) > > Do folks have experience with seeing any of these sorts of > things in their ATF pan? What could those flat strips be from? How > the heck would little stones have gotten in there? What amount of > metallic dust & flakes is considered typical wear? > > ...and, most of all, is it likely that any of these suspects > are actually related to the tranny's symptoms? > > Here's hoping...! > > Thanks, > -Greg > > > > At 6:49 PM -0700 5/30/04, Greg Merritt wrote: >> Bug-o-rama updates later tonight or tomorrow, but first... >> >> On my way into Sacramento, there was some heavy traffic on >>the freeway and I slowed down to like 35 or 45 or so. Went >>appropriately into second under a heavy foot (probably kicking down, >>as I recall) to speed back up... but it wouldn't shift into third >>when I started to go fast. I even let off the gas considerably and >>decelerated -- still didn't shift into third. (Was going at least >>50mph at this point!) >> >> I popped the shifter into neutral and let the engine drop to >>idle -- still going roughly 50mph or so, and slowing down. After a >>couple of seconds, I slid the shifter back into 3, and gently >>pressed the accelerator -- and I achieved 3rd gear, sped on up >>(careful not to kickdown), and went on my way. >> >> It's safe to say that it is doing this 100% of the time now >>-- it will absolutely NOT go into third unless I pop it into neutral >>at speed, let the rpms drop, and then re-select 3 at the shifter -- >>OR I can get up to, say, 40-50 (it stays in 2nd), let my foot off >>the gas, wait for the car to slow down a bunch -- then it will slide >>into 3rd. This takes longer and is more difficult than the "put it >>into neutral" trick. >> >> Has anyone come across this before? Where might I look first? >> >>-Greg > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >