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SteveG=> heat you will only encounter in racing and => repeated deceleration situations, like mountain => driving, etc. Speaking as a regular mountain driver, I've never experienced brake fade with the Type 3, where I have on other old cars. If anyone *has* experienced fade with their Type 3, I'd like to hear about it, under what conditions, etc. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 KG1600 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org