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0194233-- 63"1500" is April/May 1963 (a '63 model) 0237037-- 63/64 "n car" is Aug/Sept 1963 (a '64 model) Check out the chassis number list (on the website /t3engnos.htm). The Aug number is the start of the new model year. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org