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RE: [T3] areodynamics


On 4 Sep 2003 at 11:00, Jaranson, John (J.W.) wrote:

> I agree that it is impossible for it to travel all the way along the side of
> the car and into the cracked open front windows.  I suspect that what is
> happening is that the pressure difference between the inside of the vehicle
> and the outside is changing with the rapid deceleration when you lift your
> foot off the gas and you are getting air moving into the vehicle through the
> flow-thru vents on the d-pillars of the late squares.  I suspect that this
> does not happen on the early cars that don't have these vents unless their
> rear hatch seal is bad. 

I don't think the pressure difference has anything to do with decel. I suspect 
it is just Bernoulli's effect over the open window. Opening the vent window 
should be even more effective.

OTOH, a lot of engines will put out much more smelly exhaust under decel, which 
would make this much more noticable.

I never thought of these vents in the 71-3 squares as a possible source of 
exhaust getting in, but that certainly seems possible. The only problem I have 
with this theory is that I've had a lot of these cars and few of them have ever 
demonstarted the problem. The ones that did were all cured by fixing the lower 
heat exchanger to muffler connections.

OTOH, it's also possible that my cars all did this, but my engines just weren't 
smelly enough for me to notice it. I've also been told that I have a poor sense 
of smell, but I'm not so sure about that.

> Of course, anyone that was at Parma knows how DARK Keith's
> Square really is, so it could be something unique to his car due an
> undisclosed force-air induction modification or some such thing. 8^) 

It's probably something about that extra sump on the bottom that stirs up the 
airflow. I just remember following Keith down the highway into a sunset so you 
could see the underside of his engine silouetted against the bright pavement. 
It looked just like he had bolted a hubcap face down onto the bottom of his 
engine.

-- 
Jim Adney
jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, WI 53711-3054
USA

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