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Re: [T3] '65 Variant-Virgin Engine with Single Sidedraft Carb - WONT RUN - HELP!

On 18 Nov 2003 at 8:17, Duane Miller wrote:

> Yancy Everhart mentioned that T3 distributores are 180 degrees off from T1s.
> My mechanic said that when it came in the dist wires were 180 off and that
> he changed them. Can anyone else confirm that information.

The distributor drive gears for the type 1 and type 3 engines are installed 
differently. I'm pretty sure the difference is NOT 180 deg, but I can't tell 
you what it IS. You should just pull the distributor out and verify that the 
drive gear is installed correctly for a type 3. You'll need a manual and some 
quiet time to think about how to do this.

It is common for people to get the drive gear installed wrong, and it's quite 
possible that this was "fixed" on your car by rewiring the plugs "wrong." The 
best thing to do is to put EVERYTHING back right, so that this confusion does 
not come up again. There are certainly those who will tell you that it really 
doesn't matter. While they are certainly right in a way, it's also possible 
that you and your mechanic have just wasted a lot of time and money because of 
such a "fix." This is just one example of the kind of trouble that this can get 
you into.

> Also, I'm ready to gather the documentation to dig into this project myself.
> Where can I get service manuals for a 1965 Variant? All the manuals that
> I've seen are for 68-72 T3s. I have three friends that will coach me in this
> venture...one builds strokers and the other two have rebuilt T1s before...I
> need to know the T3 differences though so that I can anticipate them...I
> think that is part of the problem with my current mechanic.

Almost all the info in the 68-73 Bentley manual will be correct for your car, 
except that the Bentley does not have any carb info or 6V info. For those bits 
you should look for a Haynes manual. Both of these manuals are still in print 
and also show up often on ebay:

Volkswagen Official Service Manual
Type 3 Fastback and Squareback 1968-1973
published by Robert Bentley, Cambridge, Mass, 1974
ISBN 0-8376-0057-X / LPV 997 383 / VSQU
(excellent book, complete and well written)

VW 1500 & 1600 Type 3, 1963 thru 1973, Haynes 084 (US)
by J H Haynes and D H Stead
published by Haynes North America, Inc, 1974, 1987, 1989, 1993
ISBN 0-900550-84-8

> Last question for this string...one of my friends that has owned various VWs
> for 40 years recommended putting the Variant on my car dolly, pulling the
> plugs, putting it IN GEAR, and pulling it around the block a couple of
> times. His thinking is that it will force everything in the engine to move
> and may free up a stuck ring or cam...what do you guys think of that idea?

While I don't think this should hurt anything if done carefully, I don't see 
the point. From your past description it seems like the starter has had no 
trouble making the engine turn over.

If you get your car back from this mechanic, MAKE SURE you get ALL the carb 
parts that were taken off. This includes all the various linkages and bits for 
the air cleaner. You'll need to be careful about this, because those parts will 
be really hard to replace if lost.  

Jim Adney
Madison, WI 53711-3054

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