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Well now if the 70's are bad I guess all of them are bad, I have not, can not, figure out why a 70 case would be bad, rebuilt too many of them, I think all of the cases should have case savers put in them but I know of none that is better or worse than the other. Phil __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org