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If anyone is interested, I looked into this issue (the example I used about ebay) and found this guy in Texas, I think, that has blank keys with the vw logo. Price is $15 cut with code or blank shipping included(comparible to the guy I called a price gouger, bad example I guess :). Anyway, at least I don't have to bid on them. His email is on the site http://www.steveslockshop.com/ . Jason Smith 71 Square FI AT 72 Fasty FI AT(at the crossroads) http://jasontsmith.tripod.com/vw.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org