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I just thought of something, I have a pair of Squareback windows here that used to be pop out, that now have the stationary seal around them. They came out of a 72 Square a couple of years ago that was being parted out by a neighbor of mine. This would make the glass sizes the same, regardless of wether its in a pop out frame or a stationary frame. Can anyone else confirm this? Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 69 Square AT-the baby suburban ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org