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Wow! Thanks, that is a lot of info to take in, I feel like i am in school again (Brain hurts)... I live in a very cool climate so maybe it's not a big deal for me. I also have trouble getting parts and service here so I don't plan to drive faster than 70mph (110kph) at the most! City driving though, I plan to take clients in the car when it's done (going in for bodywork real soon) I only want reliabilty and longevity without having to drop the motor often. My car only has 46,000 original miles so I hope the original heads etc. are still good for a long while. Neil, (Finally stopped lurking, just for now) Neil, The question is what do you wish to see and at what speed ? Want to avoid cracking or damaging stock heads ? Just slow down, do not drive like I do. ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org