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Not at all irrellevant, the dark side needs brakes as well as power! But which Passat would that be? GL is just a trim level, and there's almost 30 years of Passats now... PerL 73 Variant L ---- Good point about the trim level, I'm not at all familiar with Passats :-) Next time I see the guy I'll grab him and see what year they came off. I agree with Jim about the stock brakes being more than adequate (for a stock power plant) and I have no complaints with my system. But as you mention Per, the darkside is strong. When I get my blown 2L up and running I think my insurance company will be taking an active interest in my braking system. :-) cheers, Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org