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Hey Jason, Why use the used pistons? There are NOS ones out there. Here's an example: http://www.neil.us/type3/dome/dome-01.jpg http://www.neil.us/type3/dome/dome-02.jpg http://www.neil.us/type3/dome/dome-03.jpg http://www.neil.us/type3/dome/dome-04.jpg I was going to do an original build also, but have run out of money to go that way. I just need to get my car on the road, and I already have three 1600's sitting here, so I'm just going to stick one of those in my '65. Maybe one of these days I'll do something else with it, but for now, it's not going all the way back to stock. I got these pistons for that project, and guess what... They didn't have any rings! That's why I have all the rings. A guy had a box of NOS parts, including all these rings, but only wanted to sell the box complete. Now, if you're interested in NOS domed pistons..... Neil -----Original Message----- From: Jason Weigel [mailto:notchboy@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:47 PM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: Re: [T3] 83 mm rings Ok here is the scoop on the pistons. They are the real deal from the factory. 83mm MAHLE dohmed topped pistons! I have no clue what rings fit based on the description youve given. Im just glad you have a killer selection. Look below at the pics. The lowest one on the piston is the oil ring. Its got a funny crinkle ring then the channeled/ grooved ring out side it. The two upper ones look the same. For those out there that have never seen a "S" dohmed piston.........here ya go! http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/2789089/1060353651402_1061186516490_MVC_ 009S.JPG http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/2789089/1060811489090_1058726351909_MVC_ 010S.JPG http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/2789089/1059938962080_1057977561912_MVC_ 011S.JPG http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/2789089/1058302958579_1058961267347_MVC_ 012S.JPG thanks again Neil, as we find out which ones fit mail me off the list with the price. thanks all jason > Oh, by the way, Jason, I have a set or two available. > > Neil > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org