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> "We" type 3 owners, or "We" in the UK? And for how long? > Both, I guess! I thought the "bottom end of the market" was enough to describe your poor relations, if not the sig. ;-) It applies to all later ones AFAIK, though maybe there are some 'L' spec that have a half-ring, or have had one fitted. I find it the best system, - you always know where to find it, and it doesn't go off unexpectedly, unlike the more usual (in USA) half-ring. Also it doesn't tend to crack on the spoke as the rebate is symmetrical. Oh, and just in case - I've no idea if the Type 34 did anything different from the USA spec. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/