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yeah it'd be cool if he was cleaning house, he wasn't and he really wanted my bike thats the fusterating part that got me mad actually although I may take it for 500 without the engine which was a 1800 914 engine and stick a 1600 or a 1776 in it and thats it ah well who care. I don't see them as a threat, more a sign of desperation/frustration. They really just want to be rid of it, and don't want to put any effort into the sale. I can understand not wanting to take something arbitrary in trade. It might be nice and worth a lot, but if you're just trying to clean house it gets you nowhere.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org