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Gary wrote: >Bob, do you still use the stud and nut? Nope, just a screw about 3/4" to 1 " long. I even use the copper washer too. I hope this helps. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 69 Square AT-the baby suburban ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org