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before anyone says anything, i think i got it. i tried to put it all back together and realized that i was missing parts. after a headlamp-search of the footwell, i found the insulating peice and spring that had me flummoxed. so, it is all put together, but i still have a couple of questions: 1. where is the spring supposed to be that returns the key from 'start' to 'run' position? i've never had that luxury and was hoping to kill that bird during this rebuild. 2. my insulating piece where the three wires come into the unit is pretty fried. can i just solder in new wires and clean it up as best i can? if the red/black and black wire were shorting is there somewhere else in the car i need to look for damage? now that i think about it, i'm going to take some digital pix and someone who REALLY knows how to do this can annotate and label them... any takers? thanks, dan '67 Square "Stanley" ---------------------- Daniel M. Hoopes 801-836-3411 cell 652 South 1050 East Orem, UT 84097 ---------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Hoopes [mailto:dan1@hoopes.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:54 PM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: RE: [T3] 67 Ignition Switch well, i'm going to try to do a rebuild on the one i have and i was wondering if anyone can point me to an exploded view of all the little ball bearings and springs. it fell apart as i took it out so i'm not even sure i have all the little, and i mean little parts. also, and this may be easier, can someone tell me which wires should have contact at the different key turn locations? here's the wires i have: thick solid red medium black thick red with black stripe the problem i see is that the small contact/slider plate doesn't have an obvious pivot point. does it have a "virtual pivot point" like them newfangled mountain bikes? no one has an opinion about cutting the thing apart and grafting a new electrical part to my old mechanicals? thanks, dan '67 Squareback "Stanley" ---------------------- Daniel M. Hoopes 801-836-3411 cell 652 South 1050 East Orem, UT 84097 ---------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Jim Adney [mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 8:19 PM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: Re: [T3] 67 Ignition Switch On 30 Jul 2003 at 23:58, BOB2TYPE3S@aol.com wrote: > This switch set up you're using is very fragile (as you found out). I had one > here for a 65 (same parts) that I gave to John J. as I converted mine to the > more commonly found later style. This is actually an easy, good upgrade ( > unfortunately not visually correct or original ) that works very well. Go to > Tom's web site; http://home.att.net/~tomnotch/page4notch.html > for more info on this swap. This gets you away from the hard to find and > expensive parts and gets you into the easily found replacement parts. Another advantage of this conversion is that you get the collapsing steering column if you get your parts from a 68 or later. This is a significant safety feature. -- ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org