RE: [T3] Fuel injection troubles have defeated me so far :UPDATE

["Bryan Castles" <bc@version3studios.com>]

It's a '69, so it IS the one below the exhaust port.  I went back and
forth for a very long time...  Even let the engine cool further (it was
pretty cool when I started working) for about 2 or 3 hours before this
happened.  It was not the first time the head of this sensor had been
torqued on.  I wouldn't be surprised if it was weak already.  

Would I be able to put the sensor in one of the upper locations, like on
the later cars?  All of this, and we still don't know if this is what
was giving the car trouble.  :)  Yeah, fun to be me.

Bryan Castles
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-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Park [mailto:topnotch@nycap.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:58 PM
To: type3@vwtype3.org
Subject: Re: [T3] Fuel injection troubles have defeated me so far
:UPDATE


This is not good... if something binds up try going the other way for a
turn or 2, then back and  forth.. it will usually free it up but it
seems too late for this.

If your luckey and have a universal head you may have another sensor
boss below the 3 & 4 exaust outlet.  Otherwise drill and tap.  Its a
special thread,  I think Jim A knows exactly what, so youll probably
have to get a tap.

Bummer! but still not a disasterous problem.

Keith


> More trouble...    So, any suggestions on what to do when the head
temp
> sensor breaks off in the head?  It broke right where the nut section 
> joins the threaded section.  It was getting tighter as it was coming 
> off, then snap.  It backed out some...  But it is so tight, I don't 
> see any type of "easy-out" working.  Should I pursue drilling out a 
> new spot for the head temp sensor... Or???
>
> Suggestions welcome.
>
> Bryan Castles
> Dallas Air Coolers
> '65 Panel Bus
> '69 Squareback
> www.aircoolers.org
> www.version3studios.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Castles [mailto:bc@version3studios.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 3:34 PM
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: RE: [T3] Fuel injection troubles have defeated me so far 
> :UPDATE
>
>
> Well, in the last several minutes, I also decided it is electrical, so

> I started noticing that the time it runs is shorter the warmer the 
> motor gets...  And let me tell you, it's getting pretty warm.  I can't

> really even touch the body of the distributor.  It also seems like if 
> I wiggle the wire going to the head temp sensor, that I can actually 
> get it to die...  Though it won't do it straight away.  It seems like 
> it has to run for a bit, then it is open to me manipulating it.  Does 
> it ignore those sensors for a bit until the system gets going?  That 
> would fit in with it doing it worse on the road, but would it cause 
> the car to run hot like that?  I'm waiting for the system to cool off 
> before I try to put another sensor on there.  I think I am stuck 
> trying to do this with a box wrench.
>
> Any other ideas while I'm at it?
>
> Bryan Castles
> Dallas Air Coolers
> '65 Panel Bus
> '69 Squareback
> www.aircoolers.org
> www.version3studios.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vlach, Joe -CKHS [mailto:JoeV@cksd.wednet.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 3:24 PM
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: RE: [T3] Fuel injection troubles have defeated me so far 
> :UPDATE
>
>
> Bryan:
>
> I am a novice trying to figure out my own problems; while this may 
> appear obvious, I'd guess  electrical. Have you been able to deduce 
> whether it's cutting out due to lack of spark. You've checked your 
> dwell, coil output, what else?
>
> Joe
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