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Jim wrote: >I still like the concept of marking a line using some kind of jig that would >let you just draw a line parallel to the crease in the fender. You could work >out the spacing on the other side and then just mark this side as needed. Your >best choice is probably soft pencil--it won't bleed if you paint over it.. I think I'm going to go that route. Yeah, I planned on using the other side for reference. I think I've got something around here that will work nicely for keeping it even though. I just have to play with it a little first to make sure it will work. >It's probably likely that the most important visual thing here will be to keep >the trim a constant distance from the body crease. That's the one feature that >you eye can and will fix on. BTW, I find that the door and fender almost never >seem to line up with each other exactly, so don't worry about that too much. Yes, this is a visual type of thing and I want to get it as close as I can. I've already noticed this on several other type3s that I have around here. And you're right in that the door and fender don't line up exactly. If I was taking the fenders off, I would get all the body lines to line up. But on this project the owner doesn't want to do this, as its supposed to be a repaint, not a restoration. On another note I used your method and popped the plug out whole without drilling into it. I now have a nice souvenir for my collection. : ) I was also able to verify the hole size, its 4.36mm (.1715 inch), this is without paint in the hole. So it looks like an 11/64ths will work for drilling them. Thanks for the help. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 69 Square AT-the baby suburban ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org