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In a message dated 9/25/02 8:34:19 AM Central Daylight Time, jadney@vwtype3.org writes: << Yes, type 3s use the same Bowden tube as the beetles. This adjustment seldom changes, however. If you have one that is out of adjustment it probably means that you just replaced something back there, like the transmission or its mount, or that your Bowden tube has rusted out inside and is collapsing. >> I have had the bowden tube go bad on bugs just with age. The bowden tube should have a slight curvature in it. If it gets outa adjustment (no curvature) it will progressively get worse and worse. After a while you won't be able to shift at all without grinding. I had that problem on a 1949 beetle, which originally came without a bowden tube. One hadda double-clutch and get used to grinding in first in such a case. Assuming that you don't want this to happen on a Type 3, you should check the bowden tube to see if it has the necessary curvature. The curvature should look like a flattened "S". If it is straight instead of curved, that is your likely problem. Don Garies dgaries808@aol.com ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/