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[T3] Fw: [T3] Some carb or ignition problems...


<x-charset iso-8859-1>Hmm, didn't appear the first time - here goes again...
Dave.
> > No I left the hose on last time. Jim mentioned that as well, and I
checked
> > it and I don't think it had vacuum at idle, but I will re-check it to be
> > sure.
> >
>
> The only stock Type 3 distributors where timing is done with hose(s) on is
> the twin vac on the dual carb (ie the one yours should have).  Whether it
> makes a difference in every case I don't know, but I can't see why they
> would bother to get you to remove the hose if it wasn't desirable.
> BTW which vac connection are you using (as there should be 2 to choose
> from)?
>
> Static timing at about 7.5 deg BTDC is generally a good stand-by timing
> position; I have assumed that timing with a light at 0 deg (TDC) means the
> system somehow has about 7.5 deg ignition retard built in, but maybe I'm
> wrong about that.
>
> An extract from an Australian manual states of the dual vac distributor:-
> "At the initial point of starting the chamber connected to the vacuum
source
> below the closed throttle moves the distributor plate 7° in the direction
of
> distributor rotation, thus retarding the ignition.  When the throttle is
> opened connecting the inner vacuum chamber to the vacuum source above the
> throttle butterfly, i.e. both chambers subjected to a common vacuum
source,
> the vacuum to the diaphragm unit is progressively equalised returning the
> distributor plate to the original and static timing point.
> Further progression of the throttle opening and subsequent increase in
> engine rpm causes the centrifugal advance mechanism to come into
operation.
> The centrifugal advance assembly operates directly on the distributor
shaft
> cam and independently of the vacuum unit which operates on the distributor
> plate only.
>
> NOTE: The vacuum unit does not advance the ignition timing.  It retards
the
> ignition 7° at idle speed and returns the plate to the static position
after
> throttle opening."
>
> There's a bit more to the design, as the two ports have different bores,
so
> there is a gradual change to the plate position.
>
> It would be worth watching what happens to the advance using a timing
light
> as the throttle is gradually opened.   Try timing it on 7.5 deg BTDC and
> check what the maximum advance ends up at (up to 28 deg is considered
fine).
>
> Dave.
> UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club
> http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/
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>
>
>


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