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Shawn, Below is the note I posted 2 weeks ago, re separating my 69 fastback ?project car?. I added some picture's today. Carrie had excellent advise, on what to dis-connect. I did this with one other person, one end at a time. I did not have an engine or tranny to mess with, so for me it was mostly the bolt's (liquid wrench is your friend). The answer I am used to seeing is "why are you separating her?" Separating our cars is not really necessary, unless you have some major rust issues with the pan along the rockers to deal with. 95% of our cars are accessible with-out going to this extent. Then the chance of the car ever getting back together is way less then that last percentage. Your car, however 'dark' does not look in need of separation. I say, spend your "new to VW " energy on more useful items, like that paint job or an interior. By the way, there is another panaled square on the 'show curcuit' right now that looks an awful lot like your idea, see>> http://thesamba.com/vw/gallery/gallery.mv?photo+27476.jpg Anyway, If that 1641 run's good, then run-it for a while and do research on what can be done with the flat air-cooled engine. If you have read the list in the last 3 days, the 'what engine' question has everyone's head spinning right now! Keith run's a mostly stock T-3 motor(i think?), but is the first car up his local hill-climb! He also just drove it, what 4,000 miles (from NY to Idaho and back) without a hick-up. On the other hand Shad has a 2###cc T-4 (of sorts) which I think he said can generate around 230 HP in his fastback, (But that also comes with a fully operating CNC custom VW manufacturing company he operates.) It is uncanny how VW's will end up a lot like there owners. Don't they say that about Dogs? Simply put, I would suggest giving your new T-3 some time before you tear it all apart, so you both can get comfortable with each other, and not just end up in piece's! Lastly, do you know how much space a dis-assembled T-3 takes up, and do you have that much. John R. 1 and 2 halves 69 Fastback (this disease is strong! More - More .. ) Crystal lake Il VW Vintage show September 15th, T-3 part swap my house after words. Sorry for the long post - I can only lurk so long before I - - Explode - - --- john r <vwfasty@yahoo.com> wrote: > Made a bunch of progress today, and even remembered > to > take pictures along the way. Separated the body and > pan on my 69 fastback (was going to be parts car, > but > it has the better 'body'.) For a true mid-west car > (Nebraska most of its life, sat around for the last > 10-15 years) it is looking VERY good. Take a look: > > http://www.vwdiecast.anomalous.net/images/Pan-off/ > > 20 rocker bolts > 4 front bulk head bolts > 8 rear bulk head bolts (almost forgot the 2 under > the > little plastic caps.) > 2 suspension bolts in rear trunk 2 more by rocker > and > 2 front suspension bolts. > > lots of patience, __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/