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Jim, I've been useing the Brazilian calipers for over 13 years, and have had no problems with them (after I replaced the hoses). They are the varga type, and other than fitting some aluminum wheels(rocket 8spokes have a different offset than American eagle)I really like them. I also have the Italian ATE calipers too, only they've been on for 3 years now. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/