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I took Keith suggestion and popped the cover off with the idle cranked up to maybe 1500 rpm or so. At this speed #3 was popping. I could feel no difference or see any differnece between the rockers and valves on #3 and those on #4. BTW, you lose oil fast without the rocker cover on. <G> So, tomorrow morning I pull the engine again and have a look see at #3. I hope I find something, I think. 8^) At least I am getting to know my engine well and am pretty proficient at getting it in and out. Later, John Jaranson '71 FI AT Fasty (Jane) '66 Square (Sophy) About Half a Late Square (Organ Donor) http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jaransonT3/jaransonT3/ (This is my new website address) >Pull the cover on 34... run the engine (Breifly) and watch the valve >movements... look for something sticking or jumpy.... this is probably valve >related. > ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/