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I actually met the people that make these at a show in Pensacola, FL recently (I think they said they made them, they were this exact product) Pretty cool idea and decent design. I have cupholders in my console or I might have gotten one. Travis '66 Fastback www.keedyweb.net/fastback ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/