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Eureka! My old parts sales catalogue gives 111-198-453 as 30hp DIN (36hp sae) 0.25 u/s, so on the numbering system VW are using that means the 111-198-451 std mains are for the 36hp. How much does your friend want for them, Mark? Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/