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Dave wrote: >What year did these change? Were there only early and late models? Dave, yes there were only early (up to 69) and late (70 to 73). Now if you're talking about the bumper mount (the part the bumper bracket bolts to), then they are the same in the rear. I hope this helps. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 69 Squareback-AT ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/