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I bought my scrapers about 1 1/2 years ago. At that time I was able to get them without buying a whole kit. I also seem to remember someone else having them. Check some more catalogs. You might even check with ISP west. I know some of you rag on ISP, but they have always been extremely helpful to me and also extremely knolegeable. Robbie Hattaway ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/