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I, too, was into this thread. I was never able to find GL-4 or the GL-5 MT1. I ended up using Royal Purple Synthetic Gear Oil 75W90. It is rated for both GL-4 and GL-5. I found it at the local Ramchargers. About $8 a quart compared with $13 for the Redline. Later, John Jaranson '71 FI Auto Fasty (Jane) '66 Squareback (???) About Half A Late Square (Organ Donor) http://hometown.aol.com/jaransonT3 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe