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> I have two Beetle engines from early in the '63 MY that have the 'fresh air' > fan housings but with no flaps on them (or any mounting holes), seems they Well, those must be *late* early-'63 MY. ;) I have a 1963 Beetle that was built in August 1962 (4,9XX,XXX as I recall) and it has stale air heaters and the Wolfsburg crest -- features considered "retired" at the end of 1962 MY, but that leaked over to the first '63s. It is neat to hear of cars like yours that are weird in-betweens! -Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org