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<x-charset iso-8859-1>> it was just a dark brown gell, with a very bad smell. Turpentine is > a pretty good description. Real turpentine is a lovely smell - like the smell of pine being sawn, as it's distilled from a type of pine tree. mmmm! I guess 'turps substitute' would be the smell you mean. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>