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I have read somewhere about installing a toggle switch to the fuel pump relay for this problem. Then I noticed that my '69 had a toggle switch installed under the dash. When I traced it out, it was inline with the fuel pump power. I have had strange star- up problems such as yours and after I noticed the toggle I tried it. When the car won't start I switch to kill the fuel pump and it seems to help. Anyone else heard of this? -----------Me? starting to hate FI? Strong words yes I know, since I'm a generally happy one-year convert but this not starting on hot days is beginning to seriously piss me off. TWICE today, in the 100 degree heat, the car wouldn't restart. The first time I had to wait half an hour. The second time - an hour and a half!!! The problem is this: starter turns engine over , but there's no ignition. This has regularly occurred after short slow trips on hot days. It happened after a mile drive to the Pep Boys for oil filters this morning. Then, later in the day after I changed my oil, I went to a LAPS (none are F here) for some brake pads. Same shit. Once I get the car going again, I can turn off the car and start it up again right away. My timing is good, my dwell is set, my trigger contacts have been cleaned and are operational, my points are new, the starter turns over but the engine just does not fire. VValves are set to a loose .004 and tight .006 I can't afford to spend hours of surprise downtime on any given day. I NEED TO FIX THIS OR DITCH THIS CAR. There I said it. Sorry maybe its the heat. But this is frustrating me to no end. I get the two clicks when I turn the car on, one 1.5 secs after the other. the fuel pump goes ON when I turn the car on, and then of course goes off. The fuel line appears to be fine and there's no sign of any leaks. Bentley says "If the engine refuses to start but the pump is operative check the connection between wire 18 on the ecu and terminal 50 of the starter twelve volts should be reaching wire 18 while the starter is in operation. A) How exactly do I do this BY MYSELF? B) How do I get the ECU open? Pull all those little tabs? I can't remember. How do I check 12V on wire 18? Hook the red lead of my VOM to 18 and the black to Ground? I know very little about electricity and if I need to get a technical degree in it to run this car I'm out. It also says another possibility is a faulty temp sensor. Mine reads 250 in the heat. No Good. HOWEVER, grounding it did not solve the problem, so I'm not convinced it IS the problem. Bentley says the only other options are the pressure sensor diaphragm unit or a defective pressure regulator. How do I test these without the Bosch testing device. Or maybe this is unrelated...three of my spark plug cooling boots are not in good shape. Lost ten pounds in sweat today. -Mike -- Mike Wodkowski 72 FI SQBK Brooklyn wodkowski@mac.com ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/