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<x-charset iso-8859-1>> Me? starting to hate FI? Strong words yes I know begin darkside voice Yes my son, you to now know the frustration I have felt with the light end darksidde voice > The problem is this: starter turns engine over , but there's no ignition. > This has regularly occurred after short slow trips on hot days. Mike, this is the same thing my car was doing, well almost. Most of the trips were longer about a 1/2 hour drive or so, but it did refuse to start a couple of times on a short trip. I unplugged the cold start injector connection and it has not done it once, since that time. (knock on wood) I am actually starting to think this FI system might actually be reliable. :) I'm still not sure what's going there I don't know why the cold start injector seems to be firing all the time, likely the wire is just grounded somewhere its not supposed to be. I haven't checked that out yet, but I will. Drake 72 square (stock) "Ginger" 63 bug (darkside) "Christine" San Jose, Ca ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>