Re: [T3] AT questions...suggestions

["Daniel Baum" <dbaum@isdn.net.il>]

<x-charset windows-1255>Hi all,

On the subject of linkage adjustment:

This weekend a friend of mine and I replaced my 1969 automatic Type 34's
gear shifter, as my original one was broken.

During this process the cable got out of adjustment. We messed with it -
following Bentley's instructions - but the best we could do was get it
offset by one gear. In other words when the lever is on 3 the car is in
neutral etc.

We didn't replace the entire shifter assembly, but just the rod itself. I
originally wanted to replace the whole thing but frankly couldn't work out
how to remove it from the cable. So we disassembled the shifter assembly,
and transferred parts from the new one to the old one.

It seems to me that what we need to do now is disconnect the cable at the
tranny, move the shifter to the right position, and then reconnect the
cable, without allowing the lever on the tranny to move. We do at least know
now what gear the tranny is in, so we can put it in a known state, and then
move the shifter to correspond with it.

Like everything else, I have a feeling this may be easier said than done.
Does anyone have any tips?

One more thing. To put the old one into park, you had to lift the lever, but
with the new one you don't. I can't see any difference between them. How
does this work?

You can see pictures of the car in various stages of restoration, and the
new gear lever at http://photos.yahoo.com/dbaum0000.


Regards,


Daniel Baum
'69 Type 34 automatic

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martinez, Leon" <martinezl@ftscpac.navy.mil>
To: <type3@vwtype3.org>
Cc: <Iamkeen@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [T3] AT questions...suggestions


> Your auto-tranny shifts too soon ?
> Your auto-tranny pulls at the light, stop etc...?
> Your auto-tranny kicks during shifting from Neutral ?
>
> Easy questions to answer if it is the 'problems' I think it is.
>
> -First question.
> Shifting too soon is an adjustment. The only real adjustments one
> must do at leat once during the trannies lifetime are the band adjustment
> and the lever linkage adjustment, my tranny is 33 years old and has
> not been rebuilt or had a smooth easy life, I am the 6th owner, previous
> owners were young sufers.
>
> Well back to the tranny, If one of the previous owners had some
> knowledge and adjusted the vacume controlled modulator  too tight (or too
> loose,
> I forget ) then your shift time would vary. The tranny modulator is
located
> next to the tranny pan at the rear passenger side. It is connected to
> the bottom of your engine's manifold via a hose.
>
> I have adjusted these in several caers of differnt brands, shifting can
> happen
> very late or very soon it all depends on the driver's preference or what
you
> use the
> vehicle for : lugging stuff, racing or economy. Your setup is probably
> adjusted
> for economy like mine, you must have a torquey strong engine and not
> a racer (torque at top end) or your car will run like a dog . To correct
> this :
> lift up your car, remove that hose that goes to the modulator, hose may \
> have oil from overfilled aircleaner (like mine) clean tranny connection
with
> a rag, use a flash light to see inside the metal tube. If there is an
allen
> screw
> in there get your allen set out if there is a notch then get your small
> screw
> driver out, turn the screw from a little to lots of turns (I foregot which
> way )
> put it back together , drive car any changes ? Please note the direction
> that
> you turned the screw make sure the screw noticeably went in or out to make
> noticible difference in driving .
>
> That is how I adjusted mine because first
> gear stayed up to 30 mph and 2nd stayed almost til 50 mph . I adjusted
> it to lower shift speed/time. I also found the little shaft at the other
> side of the modulator
> was bent (one of the previous owner's doing) . The modulator is removeable
> by the use of a wrench, fluid may spill if you do this so I recommend ,
> draining and
> changing fluid at this point. Suck the tranny's modulator to see if it
holds
> vacume,
> if not you need to purchase another one at a tranny shop or parts store.
>
> -next answer
> Your tranny pulls hard at a stop during braking is not normal? you have
your
>
> idle too high. Lowering your engine's idle will solve this. Your engine
must
>
> be working perfectly for low idle and/or not have a too hot cam for the
high
> end power.
> Moderate to mildly hot cam will work. Dragsters that use autotranny's have
> to
> step on the brake and accelerate just before the car takes off. Your
> accelerator is
> pressed by the adjustment and you have to step on the brake just like the
> dragster.
>
> A manual tranny setup can cover and hide a crappy engine by raising the
RPM
> at idle . A manual engine can also hide bad idle and high cam by raising
> engine speed
> but not an  automatic. Do not leave this too long like this or you can
> overheat and roast your
> fluid (I recommend a fluid change after correcting this) , this is similar
> to burning
> the clutch by having it constantly slip while braking and accerating alot.
>
> Lower your idle and your car will not creep and just a light touch on the
> brake should
> stop your car without the fight.
>
> -Answer to next question:
>
> Does your tranny kicks/moves the car as you are just turning the key
during
> stat up
> before shifting? Or is it kicking after shifting ?
>
> If it kicks in neutral during startup then your linkage adjustment is off.
> By the way,
> I disabled the starting in neutral feature by jumping the wire at the
> shifter so it can
> start in park  (in all gears for that matter) this was just a saftey
feature
> but these
> engines are low powered and not like a ford with a 8 liter engine that my
> buddy
> stated and went through the garage wall when accidentally starting in
drive.
> People may frown at me but I like to start my care in park like most cars
> today.
>
> To adjust your linkage , lift car , leave in park , use a 13mm wrench ,
> loosen
> nut and push the lever more toward the park position then tighten nut.
Your
> tranny
> mount must be in good condition and not totally ripped up or your adstment
> will
> change everyday and get worse. I ripped up my mount when my engine got
> caught
> on a partially buried boulder, this ripped my mount and my adjustment
ended
> up
> all wacked up until I replaced the mount.
>
> If your car kicks after shifting from park or neutral then that is also a
> symptom of
> Idle too fast.
>
> On this last one , when exactly does it kick during just after the engine
> kicks on
> or when shifting to intitially move it?
>
> LEON MARTINEZ
>
> 1969 SQUAREBACK EFI/AUTO
> SAN DIEGO AND TIJUANA
>
>
>
>
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