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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Jason=> "flat spot" but that has been eliminated => in new 009s. It's been my experience that every 009, old and new, features that torque hole called the flat spot. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 Grosse Karmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-charset>