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So what are the numbers! I got a pair of dells myself but not the shorty manifolds. Exhaust is a header w/ a baffled stinger. I plan on getting a merged system from S&S later. Darkiside Apprentice 1968 VW Blue Fasty http://www.edinboro.edu/~e153916n/darkside_resto.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/