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<x-flowed>okay jim, the hoses i am talking about go from under the dash to by your feet right behind the radio....2 rubber hoses... i know if they fall off water will come in... and I AM COMING TO PARMA!!!! So I should check the knobs and make sure they are working ok?? Cheers! Jason CrashOverride Systems Owner: Jason Cornfeld 1970 T-III Fasty F.I. 4 Speed Owner: Jason Cornfeld _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/ </x-flowed>