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<x-flowed>Another oddity about my pitted worn cam and concave lifters is that nothing strange was ever apparent at valve clearance time. The amount of adjustment seemed about average over my pretty limited experience (about 4-5 years doing this on various VWs). This car may have been driven hard for a while; the parts horde that came with the car indicated a prediliction for racing. But also every part was obsessively labelled with VW part numbers and notes-the PO who did this, and who undoubtedly drove it the most, probably took quite good care of it. The engine ran fine and strong (relative to other 1600s I have driven) at the time of overhaul just leaked a little oil. Chattery clutch and exhaust leak (one of the 46 mm nuts on the muffler was completely detached) made me pull the engine and of course I just kept going. Now, how do I tell if the cam is "flat"? Jim Rustad Kennewick WA 71 FI Square 76 Bus _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-flowed>