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<x-charset iso-8859-1>i have not tried this yet, but i have heard that using tsp,boiling the part in a large pot with tsp works real well. otherwise carb cleaner will probably work-although a little toxic, and it may take the paint off(probably will) or maybe just engine de greaser, foamy stuff you get in a can at any flaps-even some supermarkets around here have it(boston) then power wash at a do it yourslef car wash. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe </x-charset>