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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Run the hose from the bleeder UP from the nipple. If you run it down to a bottle, an air bubble can remain in the hose if you can't get enough flow to push it all the way through the hose and into the bottle. One stupid little bubble can remain right at the exit of the nipple and get drawn back into the cylinder, over and over. Running the hose UP immediately after the nipple (over the tire) and then down to the bottle, there is a short distance to where gravity keeps fluid down, and the air goes up without any help. A short push on the pedal results in that last stinking bubble heading out of there, up to the top of the hose loop to stay. I have had a long miserable history of bad bleeding until I stumbled upon this technique, or rather just sat and stared at the problem until clarity or insanity hit me. You decide which it was! Jeff '67 Sqbk -----Original Message----- > now I would have to be finding someone I trust to follow simple > directions to help me bleed them. As long as you attach a hose to the bleeder that's filled with fluid, air cannot get drawn back in. ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-charset>