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> like a bat out of hell, so I floored my gas pedal and threw the autotranny > in reverse, boy did > that stop the car quick, learned that trick while driving in slick mud Leon, or anyone else, Can you describe what happens when you do this? How does it all work? -Greg ******************************************************************** Done this before on big pickups that refused to stop going down hill on slimy mud . Done this once slowly on my squareback before my hilly clay road was paved. Throwing the auto tranny in reverse at high gear while going foreward will lock the rear wheels and may make the engine stop thus removing the effectiveness of stopping power. So if engine is screamed in 1st while contemplating death of car and self behind a dump truck that is at full stop, tranny survival is not a worry, so screaming engine in first gear creates lots of torque at the torque converter, not to mention all that Horse power, then throwing it in reverse will cause the rear tires to go to a full stop or scream in reverse. Throwing it it reverse like this caused a big caboommm ! noise back there and a lot of smoke, I felt I had retro rockets at full reverse (neg g's), tires screamed backward and then stopped and the engine threatened to turn off because it wanted to turn the other way. Scarry and not recommendable for normal driving . I still may use reverse going slowly down muddy roads that cannot be tamed by brakes but this is used with slow oscillating motion of the pedal. Hopefully I will never use it like this again, hope the tranny stays healthy. LEON MARTINEZ SAN DIEGO AND TIJUANA off because ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/