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12V is EXTREMELY low; are you sure you measured this with the engine running and at medium rpm? You need to make sure that replacing the VR actually did some good. Does your charging idiot light come on when you first turn the key ON? This is so low that it sounds like it was either measured with the engine off, or your charging system is not working. Did I send you the charging system FAQ? ___________________________ It was measured while we were having fuel problems. It wasn't warmed up that well, and would only run for a short time before dying. Still the just about 12v reading bothered us, so it got changed, and we checked the new one once installed... but not since. I'll need to do that. Bryan Castles Arlington, TX USA '64 Sunroof Beetle '70 Bus (Ex-Westy) '73 Square www.version3.net <http://www.version3.net> ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/