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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Yes, I have a Bugpack as well. Their merged collector is NOTHING compared to a real collector (where the four pipes come together and the muffler bolts to it). --> I haven't looked at it closely, but I recall it being similar to what you described. Is the difference in how they come together? Also, the diameter is stock size, not 1.5" like what us with bigger engines need. Big difference. --> Naturally. D e r e k F l e n n i k e n 1971 Squareback San Francisco, CA derek@enth.net ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-charset>