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Well i think i have narrowed it down. when i first start her up, she runs fine for a few minutes the the number 2 injector starts to get saturated with fuel and it runs into the plug. thats when it starts to lope and loose spark to that cylinder, could it be shorting out the injector or the spark plug? if the injector is leaking that much fuel do i need to replace it or could i just fix it somehow? new injectors at my vw shop runs $75. it appears to be from the little hose mounted to the injector its self. I have not done the drip test from bently. nathan 1970 MT fastback ------------------------------------------------ Get the award winning ISP, AT&T WorldNet Service http://download.att.net/webtag