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=> the T4's intake manifold bolt pattern isn't radially => symmetric. You can't turn it 180 degrees... I was talking about stock T3 parts. => The stock FI manifolds are pancake, so even if => you could they'd point downward. The stock manifold enters the head at an angle, looks like 20-25 degrees to me. That wouldn't work by itself reversed, but for instance if one were to machine an aluminum wedge to make up the other 25 degrees, I think it could be tricked into working. The question would be which carb to use at that point. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 Big Ghia ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/