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<x-charset iso-8859-1>> I dont know what the exchange rate is but I still have original NOS german > mufflers FS for $100US > Do those have the inside pipes and cones in the connections like the VW ones, or are they the budget version like Lange make? There's quite a difference in the effectiveness, though a bit more sound might appeal to some people and maybe my budget one was the reason for more mpg this summer in Germany than I normally have got on a long touring journey (37 mpIMPg = about 30 mpUSg). Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-charset>