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Ok..... It sounds like we should really be having a Collection/Donation fund ... " Damn I want fuel injection instead of these carbs!" .... for Toby here.... it really sounds like it is getting painful for him......:+) I got to see Toby's car in his garage last year (and Toby too...lol) and it is a VERY grand ride. Flat4Pat ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/