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<x-charset iso-8859-1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, if your reading right your top sensor is bad and mimicking a hot condition, hard cold starting. the head sensor can still open intermittantly and cut the engine out if thats your symptom. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is indeed the case, anyone know if Jason (fb Nadine) is correct, that the top sensor is no longer available? Jason T. Smith http://jasontsmith.tripod.com/vw.htm '72 Fastback AT FI '97 Jetta ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>