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I am measuring it while it is all together in the case. I removed the flywheel seal and took out the existing shims and reinstalled the flywheel. >From what i've gathered is that the bearing and thrust area of the case is badly worn :( ! Is there anything that i can do to remedy this with out taking it all apart and getting a align boring job? ie: runnig with 4 shims? Eric 1968 VW Blue Fastback http://www.edinboro.edu/~e153916n/darkside_resto.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org