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ok now i got it! originally you needed the thick washers, but due to engine case swapping you might not need them . I was going buy what books say that you need them because of the tendancy to squish the seals when tightening the bolts that hold down the cooler BTW thanks for the FAQ Eric 1968 VW Blue Fastback http://www.edinboro.edu/~e153916n/darkside_resto.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe