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Re: [Fwd: Re: [T3] won't quite start]

Does it smell excessively of petrol once you've finished turning it over? This
might sound odd but you could try the following:

Turn the key in the ignition a couple of times (without turning the engine
over) to get the pressure up in the fuel system (you should hear the fuel pump
do it's thing for a few seconds each time).
Then disconnect the wires to the electric fuel pump.
Then try turning the engine over.

If it then fires up after a few turns, then runs for a few seconds and then
cuts out, this would indicate too much fuel getting into engine in the first
place (possible explanation for the mix of oil/petrol in the sump). This could
be due to a faulty wire to one of the injectors or even one or more broken
injectors themselves. If the injector remains open throughout the firing cycle
it will force too much fuel into the engine as the system is pressurised.

Also while dealing with Fuel Injection systems, make sure the car is out in the
open and have a couple of fire extinguishers to hand just in case. Can't be too

'73 Fastback

p.s. After reading Jim's mail something occurred to me, have you had this setup
running before?

connie schmitt wrote:

> When I pulled the valve covers off I got a bit of a surprise, I was full of
> oil with gas mixed in it! after I checked the valves I replaced the oil but
> it still won't start. I was wondering how I am going to time it when the
> wires from the timing light won't reach the battery? as for where I live,
> it's in portland, oregon s.e.. to be little closer if anyone can help me
> find the problem with my t3.
> Jim Adney wrote:
> > On 17 Mar 2001, at 20:07, connie schmitt wrote:
> >
> > > the wires are right, the point gap, I have checked and rechecked, the
> > > timing I don't know how I can check it without it running so that
> > > might be the problem.
> >
> > You need a second person to turn the key while you check the timing
> > with a timing light.
> >
> > In a private email to me you also mentioned what I believe is the
> > cold start valve. For now, I would just unplug this, because you seem
> > to have too much gas, and this MIGHT be caused by the CSV being wired
> > up wrong. Disconnecting it may help. If so, you will have a better
> > idea of what the problem is. If the CSV is wired up correctly,
> > unplugging it will make absolutely NO difference if the temp is above
> > freezing.
> >
> > If you would be willing to tell us what part of the world you are in
> > there might be someone near you who could help. It is usually much
> > easier to do troubleshooting like this if you have someone more
> > knowledgable to give you pointers and who can inspect things first
> > hand. While it's certainly admirable to want to sort things out for
> > yourself, a helping hand can go a long ways toward working your way
> > up the learning curve.
> >
> > -
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> > Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org
> > Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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